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标题: WHT事件未停，惊现泰国受害者（此事绝不是个例） [打印本页]

作者: tubos 时间: 2010-7-29 23:52
标题: WHT事件未停，惊现泰国受害者（此事绝不是个例）
今天打开邮箱，发现好多WHT上帖子的回帖报告，火速点了进去居然已经20页了~

基本的情况都是讨伐Hostatree的，本人已经放弃讨伐，缺德Ryan已经明确给我EMAIL：绝对不会给我退款的。

本人基本已经认栽了，反正吸取教训安心做站。

但是看到WHT上的回帖，不禁再次火了，Hostatree太混蛋了，简直比跑路的还可恨。

有位泰国人，跟我的遭遇一模一样，英语不怎么样（但是应该比我好多了，怎么看都能过四级了），他的帖子如下：

Hi, I'm new here on WHT, but I have the same problem just lik op. Sorry for my poor English because this is not a mother language.

I ordered and paid for Athlon x2 dual core dedicated server as on their sales page. I've used it for about 2 month.When I read this post, I go back to check on my dedicated , it says...

Quote:
[root@server1 ~]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 30
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz
stepping : 5
cpu MHz : 2793.085
cache size : 8192 KB

bla bla bla

When I tried to change date,time , it says that I don't have a permission. If I am only one who can use this dedicated, I have no permission? Still funny... I go to check anythings and sure that I got a VPS INSTEAD OF DEDICATED server I paid for.. I send a ticket to hostatree immediately..

This is a log from my ticket support... ( I copied entire post from ticket page, censored my name only )

Quote:
xxx xxx
Hi , I purchased AMD Athlon X2 5200+ (4.4GHz total on 2 cores) 2.2 GHz CPU (2x 512MB L2 Cache) dedicated server from you.

After WHT thread, I go back to check my dedicated server vis unix command.

It shown that my dedicated server is Core i7 , the same as WHT posting.

This means I had been received VPS instead of dedicated server I ordered? Could you explain this?

I wish to know the truth that why I oder Athlon X2 5200+, but I received Core i7 instead. Please don't tell me that I've just got a free upgrade as Ryan said in WHT.

Regards.

----------------------------
IP Address: 180.180.7.56
Ryan B.
Staff 07/27/2010 15:26
Depending on the cpu you ordered and the lack of supplies you may have put on a virtual machine with better specs that what you ordered. You have been using it fine so I think you can agree its not a huge issue. The new server you ordered will be an actual amd cpu machine.

Best Regards,
Ryan B. - Support Manager
How would you rate this reply? Poor Excellent

xxx xxx
Client 07/28/2010 11:33
Ryan, I understand your situation. I think that when you lacked of supplies, you should notify me and asked me for vps or upgrade/downgrade dedicated server instead of you did.

I plan to use this dedicated for many wpmu blogs and I think this VPS you provided me is not appropiated.

I ask you for

1. Replace this vps to REAL amd athlon as you describe in sell page and move all data & database into a new dedicated server
or
2. Give me a full refund of both 1st and 2nd dedicated server I purchased from you. ( I don't want this choice  )

I think replaced vps instead of dedicated server as you did is not a good choice. I will not pay dedicated price for vps.

Adam
Staff 07/28/2010 11:36
Dear xxx,

I have forwarded your support request to concerned department. You will be updated on this.

Best Regards,
Adam - Technical Support
How would you rate this reply? Poor Excellent

Ryan B.
Staff 07/28/2010 23:56
I am not sure what you are talking about? The server we are about to provision for you is an actual server...

Best Regards,
Ryan B. - Support Manager
How would you rate this reply? Poor Excellent

xxx xxx
Client 07/29/2010 03:59
Dear Ryan B. - Support Manager,

You said that you provide me an actual server, Yes, actual server you claimed is VPS NOT REAL DEDICATED server.

This is what you said in the previous reply, can you remember ?

"Depending on the cpu you ordered and the lack of supplies you may have put on a virtual machine with better specs that what you ordered. You have been using it fine so I think you can agree its not a huge issue. The new server you ordered will be an actual amd cpu machine.

Best Regards,
Ryan B. - Support Manager " You told me on 07/27/2010 15:26;

You TOLD me that you provide me a VPS instead of DEDICATED server.

When I use command cat /proc/cpuinfo on SSH to check CPU , this is what I ger from server

"
[root@server1 ~]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 30
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz
stepping : 5
cpu MHz : 2793.085
cache size : 8192 KB
"

I orderd Athlon X2 5200+ dedicated server, but you provide me a VPS on Core i7 instead.

How did you told me that you provide me an actual server?
This happended to my friend and other people on WHT that purchased dedicated server from you.

Could you explain and solve this problem?

Regards

Gary
Staff 07/29/2010 04:04
Dear xxx,

I have forwarded your support request to concerned department. You will be updated on this.

Best Regards,
Gary - Senior Technician

You know, entire websites on this server are WPMU, 1 website has 400 blogs, the 12 websites rest has each 1 blog, CPU usage is not exceed 15-20%

Now, I'm still waiting for reply from Ryan,Hostatree

Please note that my friend have the same problem like me and he decided to close account. This means all of low cost HostAtree dedicated server were replaced with their VPS on core i7?

UPDATE, now I can not access my website , this is my IP number 173.242.113.11

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我开始以为不会也是中国人遭骗吧，看到180.180.7.56 这个发TK的IP，果断查了原来是泰国人。。。从情况分析，他也不会得到退款了。

跟我的情形几乎一模一样，不过他买的是AMD X2那款。

看来有一些美国奸商实在太可恨了，同志们买低价独服的时候一定要留心啊！！

ryan真是一个丧尽良心的商人了，甚至比跑路的还可恨。

本人总结如下：

1 选择IDC的时候注意看看他们的页面有没有特大的BUG，一般只有不认真的老板才会犯低级错误，比如Hostatree写的CPU有512M CACHE，（512K）
2 如果是特价服务器，很不现实的特价，而且是没有时间限制的优惠，永久性的低价，请警惕之。（比如Hostatree永久性的45美元，太廉价了）
3 上hostloc本论坛搜索一下，再去WHT上搜索一下，最后在谷歌一下，看有没有小白鼠或负面记录。

[ 本帖最后由 tubos 于 2010-7-29 23:57 编辑 ]

作者: salang 时间: 2010-7-29 23:55

哎，····杯具无处不在

作者: wowenwen 时间: 2010-7-29 23:55
怨亲债主哎

作者: sunday 时间: 2010-7-29 23:58
hostatree

真的太操蛋了

作者: ghost 时间: 2010-7-30 00:02

原帖由 tubos 于 2010-7-29 23:52 发表
永久性的45美元

一看就不像很能撐的價格啊 ~_~
不過你是一次就付了 45 美元了嗎 ...

不過你文章原本是發在哪個板啊?

[ 本帖最后由 ghost 于 2010-7-30 00:17 编辑 ]

作者: mfch666 时间: 2010-7-30 00:12

原帖由 salang 于 2010-7-29 23:55 发表
哎，····杯具无处不在

作者: nsbase 时间: 2010-7-30 00:12
太悲剧啦

作者: smdcn 时间: 2010-7-30 00:12
去Paypal投诉试试吧

作者: Globalization 时间: 2010-7-30 00:13

得瑟帝

作者: Globalization 时间: 2010-7-30 00:15
45美元，本来就不现实，更没有必要去尝试，劳神伤财

作者: deak17 时间: 2010-7-30 00:15
大大的杯具啊，

作者: saskeke 时间: 2010-7-30 00:16
感謝樓主哦！

作者: tubos 时间: 2010-7-30 00:17

原帖由 Linode 于 2010-7-30 00:15 发表
45美元，本来就不现实，更没有必要去尝试，劳神伤财

45美元的服务器。。。。也就FDC的靠谱吧。。

作者: usa 时间: 2010-7-30 00:18
哎~~~45美金而已。。。。费了这么多精力，浪费了这么多时间，由于愤怒估计少活几年~~何必呢，何苦呢？
现在骗子无处不在，骗子都是利用人们的贪便宜心理，所以记住一句话，好货不便宜，便宜绝对没好货！价格离谱到自己深层思考下就想到的，只是被骗子利用了当时的贪图心理。。。。

作者: Globalization 时间: 2010-7-30 00:18
建议LZ到PP投诉，将他说不会退你的证据，所有证据以PDF格式发给PP吧

作者: Globalization 时间: 2010-7-30 00:21
偶也不建议LZ去顶帖，以后那个坏蛋没钱赚了，他无聊了，会不会攻击你的站呀？

小心呀

作者: 酥油茶 时间: 2010-7-30 00:27

原帖由 Linode 于 2010-7-30 00:18 发表
建议LZ到PP投诉，将他说不会退你的证据，所有证据以PDF格式发给PP吧

这还可以投诉PP，第一次听说。希望PP管这类闲事？PP负责清理掉这些资信差的卖家？

作者: 酥油茶 时间: 2010-7-30 00:30

原帖由 tubos 于 2010-7-30 00:17 发表

45美元的服务器。。。。也就FDC的靠谱吧。。

对呀，自己要有主见，自己不去研究他的网站，你可真是的。网站做的不好我是不会去选择的。

作者: WAKAKA 时间: 2010-7-30 00:33
杯具重现~~~

作者: MaYi 时间: 2010-7-30 00:39
杯具总是有的

作者: 酥油茶 时间: 2010-7-30 01:20
只要人的贪心在，悲剧总是会有的

作者: easyboy 时间: 2010-7-30 01:29
DDOS大队准备出发

作者: TMnet 时间: 2010-7-30 10:12
其实这些欺诈公司的背后都是来自印度的印度人，把自己假装成美国公司

作者: 杯具 时间: 2010-7-30 10:13
还有和你一样杯具的，呵呵。。。

作者: iamfly 时间: 2010-7-30 10:44
这个真是杯具了啊，Hostatree彻底臭了

作者: ATOM 时间: 2010-7-30 10:46
联合起来去paypal投诉他吧.

作者: cuxian 时间: 2010-7-30 10:51
杯具啊。。总是不断的发生

作者: Host.HowPick 时间: 2010-7-30 11:22

原帖由 wowenwen 于 2010-7-29 23:55 发表
怨亲债主哎

这头像，太强悍了。

楼主，看来退款没戏了。把情况给PP说明，不过难说。

作者: Host.HowPick 时间: 2010-7-30 11:22

原帖由 iamfly 于 2010-7-30 10:44 发表
这个真是杯具了啊，Hostatree彻底臭了

作者: Host.HowPick 时间: 2010-7-30 11:24

原帖由 TMnet 于 2010-7-30 10:12 发表
其实这些欺诈公司的背后都是来自印度的印度人，把自己假装成美国公司

除非那个人承认自己只印度小三，不然我还是认为他就是美国人。美国的骗子也很多。

作者: mrcplusplus 时间: 2010-7-30 11:32
呵呵，真的是Host A Joke!

作者: cicilee 时间: 2010-7-30 11:44
呵呵
，听名字就像骗子啦，rain写成ryan啦，，

作者: ccp 时间: 2010-7-30 12:01
去paypal。你拿到的产品与介绍的不符。然后把详细情况说明清楚，把两个wht连接一起给paypal。

作者: jiangchunlin 时间: 2010-7-30 12:33
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作者: yc260982 时间: 2010-7-30 12:56
坑无处不在

作者: hx 时间: 2010-7-31 00:18
一看就是阿三的作风

作者: Rey 时间: 2010-7-31 06:08
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作者: yculer 时间: 2010-7-31 11:21
lz，当你买一家没有资历，价格又低的独服的时候，就应该明白其中隐藏的风险，现在你只是为风险埋单，一分钱一分货，不要有侥幸心理。

作者: geyunbing 时间: 2010-7-31 11:24
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